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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:52 am 
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What if Allies and Soviets went to war directly after Germany collapsing ?

Any opinions from the military train spotters ?

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Operation Unthinkable was pretty much a plan to ensure an independent Poland despite the Yalta agreement. That would have meant all bets would have been off. I don't think the Western Allies could have driven the Soviets back across the Vistula, more likely that they would have ended up with their backs to the Rhine, or the bay of Biscay, depending on Stalin's mood. Just the fact that the Allied had to ferry every single artillery shell to mainland Europe is such a logistic disadvantage that I can't see how they would have had a chance against the Soviet juggernaut. Doctrine-wise, the US were not that different from the Germans, and the Germans never found a way to stop the Soviets. And let's not forget that the IS-3 was most likely the best tank in the world in 1945. Even the IS-2 likely outmatched the Pershing.

There was also the Iran crisis of 1946 going on, which would have turned hot, too.

Last, but not least, with less occupation forces and hostilities on German soil you would have a lot of civil unrest, maybe up to a state of civil war in Germany.

Maybe you'd get a premature Hungarian revolt if there would have been a chance of Allied support.

In the end, I believe the Western Allies would have been pushed back eventually, just like it happened to the Germans in 43. After that, the people in Great Britain and especially the US would have called for peace. The Americans were pretty war-weary even after VE-day and the Pacific campaign lost a lot of public support.

By 45/46, even the threat of nuking a Soviet city wouldn't made a huge impression on Stalin. I don't think he would have stopped even if the US dropped an atomic bomb on St. Petersburg or Moscow.

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