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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K Doubles
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:41 pm 
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ultra papa smurf wrote:
have the option to swap the combined arms detachment out for a codex detachment. Or better yet, instead of combined arms and an allied detachment just make it a 2 detachments chosen from any source as per the rulebook.


1. Armies will not exceed 1850 Points across all Detachments.
2. Armies may be constructed from a maximum of 2 Detachments (as defined in THE RULES), no more than one of which may be a CAD.
3. Allied Detachments may be selected from the same Faction as the Primary Detachment.
a. Formations are permitted as one of the 2 detachments, but not Apocalypse or Fortification Formations.
4. Detachments may be produced from a maximum of one Codex / Codex Supplement.
a. Example – You may not selectively include units within one CAD from both Codex: Tau and Codex Supplement: Farsight Enclaves, despite them being within the same Faction per the Detachment creation rules.
b. Exception – Units available to various Factions by means other than the primary or supplemental Codex are permitted (e.g., Dataslate Characters, Forgeworld 40K approved units where allowed).
5. 0-1 Fortification chosen from the following list. All of the rules may be found in the Stronghold Assault supplement. Please note – the following is just the shared list; additional Fortifications are allowed within the event-specific variances listed below.
a. Aegis Defense Line
b. Imperial Bastion
c. Skyshield Landing Platform
d. Firestorm Redoubt
e. Vengeance Weapons Battery
f. Void Shield Generator (must meet the measurements of the official model)
6. Conjured Units are considered to be under your control, but not part of any Detachment. As a result, benefits from your Warlord such as Conqueror of Cities and benefits granted by being a part of a given detachment do not apply to Conjured Units. Furthermore, as a RAW clarification, Conjured Models interact with other models as per the Allies Matrix, regardless of the Faction that summoned them.


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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:32 pm 
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are we aloud to take lords of war?


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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:12 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:52 pm 
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khorneflakes wrote:
are we aloud to take lords of war?


Yes: only 1x LoW per army.


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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:20 pm 
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And after checking some of the new codices, units and fortifications, have decided to put in limits of


So to clear this up I can

Take up to
• one Combined Arms Detachment (Windrider Core Host)
• one allied detachment CAD (Craftworld Eldar or Dark Eldar)
• one formation (Craftworld Aspect Axillary Host)


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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:05 pm 
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Shaun wrote:
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And after checking some of the new codices, units and fortifications, have decided to put in limits of


So to clear this up I can

Take up to
• one Combined Arms Detachment (Windrider Core Host)
• one allied detachment CAD (Craftworld Eldar or Dark Eldar)
• one formation (Craftworld Aspect Axillary Host)




Sorry I haven't got back earlier....
Are ther any complaints about the proposed army composition?
Am I correct that Craftworld Eldar is the main codex and Windrider Core Host is a formation within the codex?
Therefore I see no problems.


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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:11 pm 
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The way Shaun has worded it means he is asking for 3 detachments while TO has specified 2.

However, if I am reading correctly Shaun in wanting an Eldar warhost containing a winder rider formation and an auxiliary formation, then taking an allied detachment, which is perfectly fine within the current players pack.

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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 8:39 pm 
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ultra papa smurf wrote:
The way Shaun has worded it means he is asking for 3 detachments while TO has specified 2.

However, if I am reading correctly Shaun in wanting an Eldar warhost containing a winder rider formation and an auxiliary formation, then taking an allied detachment, which is perfectly fine within the current players pack.


Yep thanks guys

Guardian Core Battle host confers army wide command benefit which extends to both formation and detachment and
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Auxiliary Aspect host
Then add CAD

Or take only a CAD and add an auxiliary host but not receive the Core battle host benefits. Booked accommodation and running lists.... obviously Eldar


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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 10:17 am 
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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 2:11 pm 
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so one lord of war means I cant primary detachment imperial knights?
the force org is 3 x lord of war


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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:06 pm 
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carnage_inv wrote:
so one lord of war means I cant primary detachment imperial knights?
the force org is 3 x lord of war


Sorry but at this stage I am not able to allow the 3 LOW Imperial Knights although I would love to see them in battle!


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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:05 am 
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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 6:16 pm 
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I was told by the 16th


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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:46 pm 
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I have been through the player pack

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∙ Tournament Points are awarded for properly painted armies, completed army lists and for sporting behaviour.
∙ Game Points are awarded for winning games, secret missions and victory points.


What percentage breakdown for game points for painting, army lists, sporting behaviour, winning games etc
I am assuming 20% 20% 60% could you clear this up please before I submit my list and commit myself to heaps of unnessecary painting.

There is no mention of comp so can I assume my filthy Eldar are safe from heavy comp and will not be auto marked down for sports ?

Thanks in Advance


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 Post subject: Re: SouthCon 2015 40K 1850 Singles Tournament (Note Change)
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:25 pm 
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Shaun wrote:
I have been through the player pack

Quote:
∙ Tournament Points are awarded for properly painted armies, completed army lists and for sporting behaviour.
∙ Game Points are awarded for winning games, secret missions and victory points.


What percentage breakdown for game points for painting, army lists, sporting behaviour, winning games etc
I am assuming 20% 20% 60% could you clear this up please before I submit my list and commit myself to heaps of unnessecary painting.

There is no mention of comp so can I assume my filthy Eldar are safe from heavy comp and will not be auto marked down for sports ?

Thanks in Advance



Points Structure:
Game Points are awarded for games as follows: each game /12 total score /60
• A win is 6 Game Points, a draw is 4, and a loss is 2.
• Eliminating a Force is 2,
• First blood 1,
• Line breaker 1,and
• Achieving the “Secret Mission” is 2 Game Point. “Secret Missions” are a set of extra objectives which will be drawn or assigned for each army before each game.

A victory where the “Secret Mission” is achieved and a massacre occurred would be worth 6 points [win] plus 2 points [Force eliminated] plus 1 point [First blood] plus 1 point [Line breaker] plus 2 points [Secret Mission achieved] for a total of twelve points.

Tournament Points: are awarded for army composition, presentation and gamesmanship as follows: /30
Army composition: / 5
• 3 points The army has a theme and named.
• 5 points Creativity of the composition of your army, background fluff etc.
Presentation Points: Must apply to the bulk of the army (90%+) /25
A painted and based army
• 5 points Army is fully painted, but only to the three-color base coating
• 8 points Army is beyond fully painted, additional steps beyond the three-colours
Detail
• 2 point Painting is Uniform: Not a mix of schemes, styles, and looks
• 3 points Details are painted such as eyes, buckles, and accessories
• 4 points Highlights are neat, dry brushing is appropriate; inking is controlled
• 5 points Overall appearance is amazing! Everything works great together
Basing
• 1 point Bases painted
• 2 points Bases have basing materials (flock/sand/tiles) or details painted on them
• 3 points All bases finished to a very high standard and matches the army
Conversions
• 0 points None: The army is made straight from the box
• 3 points Minor: The army has some elementary conversions
• 4 points Major: The army has some difficult conversions
• 5 points Extreme: The army has some extreme conversions, which could be: a scratch built conversion or sculpts of an entire model, a large amount of models with difficult conversions or the entire army is extremely converted.
Your three objective markers; these should be themed to your Army, and based on 40mm.
• 2 points All objective markers are appropriate to the army bases
• 3 points Based & highlighted or detailed objective markers
• 4 points Objective markers finished to a very high standard matching the army

Each player will accumulate sportsmanship points over the course of the day.
Each player will award points to their opponent at the end of each game: /10
• 2 points – Great game, happy to play them again
• 1 point – Good game, some questionable actions by your opponent
• 0 points – Poor game; didn’t play to all the rules and was late!
• -2 points – Required intervention from organisers!
The default score is 2 and it is expected that each player would normally score this.

Bonus Points
At the end of the tournament, you will be asked to vote for your Favourite Opponent. These votes will be taken at the Head Table. Each vote that a player receives will be worth 2 additional points toward his/her overall score. Thus, a player may score a max of 10 points from favourite Opponent votes.

Also during the day, players will be voting for the Players’ Choice award. This award is for the army that all the players consider to be the best at the event in terms of painting, converting, and overall theme. The winners of the Players’ Choice award will receive a bonus of 5 points to their overall score.


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