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 Post subject: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:34 pm 
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DATE: 7th and 8th February

VENUE: Woolston Workingmens Club (43 Hargood Street, Woolston)

COST: $20 per person

Please note : All payments must have a reference and, or identification, as to who made the payment and for what system. Unidentified payments will cause problems for all involved.

B. Arthur
TSB Bank
15-3953-0595502-00

POINTS: 925 per person from missions 1-5 and 300 points per person for Mission 6 Kill Team

EMAIL LISTS: nmmcbrearty@gmail.com

LISTS and REGISTRATION PAYMENTS: In by 1st February (lists after this date will only be accepted on an even number, this will also include payment)

FORCE ORGANIZATION CHART: Single Force Org per player (2 HQ, 1-6 Troops, 0-3 Elites, 0-3 Fast, 0-3 Heavy and 1 Fortification total), special formation (ie Dark Eldar Real Space Raiders) or dataslate (ie Dark Eldar Corpsethief Claw)
1 HQ and 1 Troop is a minimum requirement for most lists and depends on the umpires discretion.
At this stage NO Lord of War/Super Heavies/Gargantuan Monstrous Creatures. The points for each person's force is too small and a LOW could crush resistance too quickly.

ALLIES: Your team mate is your ally except you can ally with anyone, following the guidelines for Allies in 7th edition.

FORGE WORLD: These will be allowed except for Heresy and Apoc but if you are using Forge World units then you must use the Forge World models.

PAINTING: Min 3 colours per model.

FORTIFICATIONS: All are allowed but if you can not fit them on the table then it is not placed down (no moving of scenery).
The only exception is no destroyer weapons and any fortification that has not been produced by GW. (This is the same guidlines as Nationals).
If you are using the Stronghold Assault book you must have it with you.


WARLORD: There will only be one Warlord for the whole of the tournament (marked on your list when sent in) and that person will have the highest leadership.
If equal leadership then pick one.

Models and stands as supplied with model

Battle Points 60%
Sportmanship 30%
Painting 10%

Time Schedule:

Day One
8:15-8:30 Rego
8:30 - 11:30 Mission One
11:30 - 12:15 Lunch/Beauty Pageant (vote for favourite army)
12:15 - 3:15 Mission Two
3:15-6:00 Mission 3

Day Two
8:30 - 11:30 Mission four
11:30 - 12:15 Lunch
12:15 - 3:15 Mission Five
3:15 - 3:30 Break/Change terrain
3:30 - 5:15 Mission Six (Kill Team mission- Top troops/HQ Only Super Smash Brothers)
5:15- Prizegiving for all systems

Check out our Facebook event page! https://www.facebook.com/events/341782979340996/

Mission Pack from 1-6

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nem ... sp=sharing

Confirmed players as of 19/01

40K

Stott J & Piesse J
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X4h ... sp=sharing

Adams T & Furze T
Tim's Daemons https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... sp=sharing
Tom's Daemons https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... sp=sharing

Snyder-Bishop K and Hammond S
Karn's Eldar- https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... sp=sharing
Shane's Dark Eldar- https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... sp=sharing

Shaskey Z & Barclay W
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... sp=sharing


Royce T & Joss T
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fkl ... sp=sharing

Shaskey B & Brawley A
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... sp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qz6 ... sp=sharing


Gibson K & Collin M
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NTL ... sp=sharing

Clough S & Gosnell C Space Wolves and Orks (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FxO ... sp=sharing)

Gibbs C & Wilson C Tyranids
(https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VH3 ... sp=sharing)

Heaphy G & Prior K Team: "Drugs Would Be Cheaper" SoB and Orks!?
The Orks- https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... wMksw/view?
usp=sharing
The SoB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... sp=sharing

Sam Jackson and Matt's IG and BA
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... sp=sharing

Sam Wooding and Steven Lemon NEcrons and Chaos
Crons- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BtQ ... sp=sharing
Chaos- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ys7 ... sp=sharing

Nathan English and Aaron Kinsella New Look Necrons and CSMs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zo8 ... sp=sharing

Josh Evans and Nick Cochand Tzeentch and IG
Tzeentch https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq1Ux ... sp=sharing


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:46 pm 
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Can points not used from player a be used by player b?


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:54 pm 
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Hi Carnage! I am afraid not. You and your buddy would need to build as close as you can to 925 or the spare points will go to waste when you add up to 1850. List building is a pain!


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:06 pm 
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Hi Nick,

I'm not sure i understand how you're using Detachments. I think you're reducing the min requirements down to 1 HQ and 1 Troop, but there are several codex-specific detachments (the DE one comes to mind) that require, for example, at least one Fast Attack choice (so the DE one requires 1 HQ, 2 Troops, and 1 Fast) Are they also reduced to only requiring a single HQ and Troop?


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:06 pm 
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Hi Nick,

I'm not sure i understand how you're using Detachments. I think you're reducing the min requirements down to 1 HQ and 1 Troop, but there are several codex-specific detachments (the DE one comes to mind) that require, for example, at least one Fast Attack choice (so the DE one requires 1 HQ, 2 Troops, and 1 Fast) Are they also reduced to only requiring a single HQ and Troop?


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:22 pm 
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Cheers Wes! Man, this 7th edition parlance could get tricky, eh? To meet its requirements, a formation must feature a certain number of "x" units. How can I phrase this better? I think I am confusing "detachments" with "formations..." with a sprinkling of "dataslates."

Let me try again:

"Formations are allowed so long as you meet its requirements within the 925 point limit. Your force should be able to accommodate a minimum requirement of a HQ slot and a troop slot being filled. Off to edit!

I am thinking of that awesome...and yet horrid...Tau dataslate that featured a whole bunch of broadsides and a riptide. I can't remember seeing fire warriors as part of that or a Tau Commander. So, I want to make sure a minimum HQ and Troop slot being filled is mandatory. Does that make better sense?


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:30 pm 
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It's not the formations that worry me. They have requirements that you have to meet.

The detachments are open-ended, often with 1 HQ, 2 Troops, and (if you're using a codex specific detachment) 1 of something else (often a fast or elite choice)

Also, if both players take the same army (say Daemons) are they able to take unique wargear? (say the Grimoire of True Names)

AND (edit) what sort of missions are we looking at? Eternal War? Maelstrom? Something in between?


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:08 pm 
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Ah-hah, behold the Grimoire! I remember that guy, powerful and army buffering. Did a number on my Orks, the prat.
I think it is safe to say that a unique artefact type of item or wargear purchased by one half of a doubles team cannot be purchased by the other half because it would lose its uniqueness. JD and I got around this at Cavcon by synergising our green tide with a Warboss and Big Mek.

I will likely need some help screening some of the lists that come in to assess the cheese quality against fun factor. Good question!

The missions- heh-heh! I am going to put up some scenarios for y'all to test out from current and past editions. I LOVED the primary/secondary thing you did at Conquest and mixing up Maelstrom with BRB missions. I will do Warclouds like that, too. Yes, I am looking at including tactical objective cards.

40K has had some awesome missions from over the years. The old 3rd ed rulebook had a bunch of cool stuff and the latest supplements also feature missions I would like to take a look into.

I really like the ideas behind "Firesweep" and "Assasination" from Cities of Death.

Some of the older missions like "Capture and Control" and "Take and Hold" might get a show along with a good old "Meatgrinder."
Feedback appreciated and ideas gratefully accepted, too! If you can think of something cool, let me know!


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:18 pm 
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No worries then, but back to my original question:

will detachments that require more than 1 HQ and 2 troops be allowed to just take 1 HQ, 1 Troop AND 1 fast/elite/whatever or will they just be 1 HQ, 1 Troop, ignore the additional requirement.

Looking fwd to seeing the missions; they're where the rubber meets the road, after all


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:27 pm 
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Yep. If the requirement is normally one Hq and 2 Troops + blah, let's change that. One Hq and one troop. 925 gets swallowed up pretty quick.


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:33 pm 
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I can smell an outing for the Space Nunz.......or inquisition.........

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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
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You should talk to Cam, Chris, see if we can't get him back into the swing of things as soon as possible


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:45 am 
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@Wes: yeah him and I are going to team up.

@Nick: So what you're saying is that if you want to use a formation that doesn't actually have a Troop as a mandatory requirement (and there is a few, ie The Grotesquerie, The Archangels (BA 1st company)), then you're out of luck? I'd love to use The Archangels.......all BA Termies and Sternguard? What could go wrong??

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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:34 pm 
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That formation sounds like fun. Would there be a way to crowbar in a troop and HQ while still metting the other requirements? Sorry, I just simply can't afford every codex and there is a heck of a lot I don't know, frankly. I might be willing to make an exception. Give me an example of what you'd do!

Termies are about two hundred black sun filters. 3 squads, Sergeant as warlord? That seems fine.
Good question.


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 Post subject: Re: Warclouds 40K 2015
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:53 pm 
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Nah the formation is strictly 2 HQ and 16 (not a typo!) Elites.

At any rate, Cam and I are going to do Tyranids now so it's a moot point. Although if I was to do the Tunnel Swarm........that's a Trygon Prime, a Trygon, a Mawloc and 3 squads of Raveners..........all FA and HS choices......and easily 900+....

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